Belleek Newslettre (# 14.1)
POTTERY UPDATES !!
REMEMBER, 2010 brings to our Society a
concept, where, as of January 1,
2010, NO MEMBERSHIP
DUES will be accessed in the future !! This is a
positive attempt to attract new members, whom are
visiting our BCIS
Site but not joining our fine
Although, there will no longer
be ‘a yearly
membership renewal item’, there will
Limited Edition items, available ONLY to Society
This will be in addition to special
offers to members ONLY !!
SO, be sure to visit your Pottery’s Official Site at :
to view all their new wares and read your B.C.I.S.
2010 SUMMER IRISH TOUR !!
There’s a SPLENDID 14 day Summer Irish Tour being planned
the dates of 11-Sept thru 24-Sept, 2010 !! If you’ve
pranced around Ireland, this is your chance !! All
information, complete itinerary and registration
information may be
viewed at :
Summer Irish Tour
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IF you DO NOT have Adobe facilities resident on your
Computer, Click on the Link below to Download and Install
an appropriate Version :
This promises to be a wonderful event, but space is limited,
so if you
would enjoy an end of summer vacation, this is
one not to be missed !!
BELLEEK FOR SALE !!
An interesting little, about 200 items, collection of
currently for sale !! Many of the items are
BUT REMEMBER, that the 6th Period begins in 1965
and ended in 1980 !!
Even these items are THIRTY to FORTY
FIVE years old now !! All items
may be viewed at the
following Site :
With some important holidays nearing, this would be an
to introduce another generation to the
marvels of our truly romantic
Irish Belleek !! Or
consider purchasing yourself another indulgence !!
** UPCOMING CONVENTION NEWS !!
SAVE THE DATE FOR BCIS 2011
15th thru 18th
Chicago lost the Olympic bid but we
gained the next
BCIS convention! Please join us
for a fun filled
convention where we talk about,
shop for, auction off ,
and share information
regarding our favorite obsession,
The Windy City Chapter is very excited
the next convention and is very busy
with the plans.
Look for updated information regarding the
hotel information, in
my upcoming Newslettres !!
I’ve received no additional information, BUT
all be the first to know of any developments !!
MY LAST JOB !!
I was trying on some coats to see if they would fit me.
I love to do
that every now and again because of what you
find in the pockets. Items
like Kleenex, ticket stubs,
receipts, keys and best of all... MONEY!!!
But needless to say I was fired from my coat check job !!
WITHOUT WHICH .. ..
.. .. NONE is genuine ?? Or is it ??
In any case, I’ve become
VERY concerned with some of the
items that have appeared on
E-Bay in the past several months !!
It seems that some
are offering ‘Belleek’ items
which, are at BEST
VERY questionable !!
I’ve been in contact with MULTIPLE members of the U.K.
others around the world and we are ALL in
agreement that MANY of
the items offered are not only
QUESTIONABLE as valid Belleek
manufacture, BUT actually
possess ‘fake’ or
counterfeit markings !!
Basically, a ‘true’ 1st period
mark should have THREE (3)
windows on the Devenish Tower, an Irish
firmly on the ground AND NOT with his rump
portion of the harps
Lastly, the Harp should have a STRAIGHT
back or sounding
board (rightmost part of it), the pillar (opposite the
back), should curve slightly and gracefully into the neck,
DEFINITELY curved upwards to its attachment to
the back !!
the 1st period mark should have 3 shamrocks to
the left of the [BELLEEK] banner and either 3 or 4 to its
On larger marks, you may actually be able to see
for the strings on the back as well
‘bricks’ on the tower
and some hair on the hound !!
A Splendid 1st. Period Mark
including a (transfer) Registry Mark
from my Gladstone Chamber Pot !!
Here’s another splendid example from taken from the base
one of my Belfast Miniature Armorial Tygs !! Since 1st.
Miniature Armorials are considered like NON-existent,
you will note, IF
you look closely at the picture below,
you will see the
‘remnants’ of a 2nd Period Mark’s Ribbon
‘UNDER’ the 1st !!?? Apparently, the 2nd was
large for a proper transfer so someone just grabbed up
whatever was available and in this case it was a 1st period
‘remnants’ to the right of the
Harp’s Sounding Board and
just below the
‘BE’ in Belleek !!
IF you’re fortunate enough to possess a sample of
impressed [Belleek Co Fermanagh] Mark, remember,
the letters should be equally spaced and on an
between the pair of dies [BELLEEK] and
[Co. FERMANAGH] !!
Although, BOTH dies are usually impressed on a
since these are independent dies, they rarely appear on
separate lines, i.e., [BELLEEK] is one impression above the
[Co. FERMANAGH] on a line underneath it !!
It should be noted here, that I've ONLY discussed Belleek's
mark !! Since this mark obviously enhances an
items value, it is the one more
probably conterfitted !!
Let's face it, WHY would anyone
attempt to 'fake' a green
period mark when black marks are much more
sought after ??
In ALL cases, you should be quite familiar
PROPER marks, in each period, their variations,
colours, Parian 'feel', etc., to provide you with the
ammunition in making an informed decision prior to any
From friends of mine, down under, I received the following,
relevant to most ANY collectible !!
“When buying something always know your product. Just
recently an overseas seller offered for sale several items
them to be extremely rare first and second
black mark Belleek pieces.
When an item is listed as very
rare, one off, proceed with caution.
This is not to say
that the piece can't be genuine. Take a really good
at it. Does it look right? Is the colour of the glaze right?
it feel right? What do you know about the piece. Have
you ever seen an
example in books on Belleek?
“What we do know is Potteries did not make one off pieces.
The process is a long one. First the modeler makes a
sculpture of the
piece in clay. This can take weeks or
even months to make. Then a mould
(Plaster cast) is made
over this original sculpture. Then a second
mould is taken
off the first mould. It is the second mould that is used
in the production of the piece. Then a piece is poured.
It is fired.
“Many things can go wrong, it can go misshaped in the
crack, or the details are not clear. These things
must be fixed or the
mould is discarded. Discarding is a
last resort. To get a piece to this
stage a lot of time,
effort and expense has gone into the process.
“You must also remember we are talking 1857 to 1926, the
workers didn't work 9 to 5, five days a week in the
today. They worked long hours, in cold
draughty buildings with poor
lighting. Not the conditions
to work extra hours on a project of your
“Next look at the mark. First black marks are not always
black. It appears it took the Belleek Pottery a while
before they made
up their minds as to which colour of ink
to use. Genuine first black
mark pieces can be found to
be blue, brunt orange, forest green, brown
and black. But
always check to make sure there is not trade mark
registration OR to the right of the tower. Trade marking
1955 for Belleek.”
Editor’s Note : The term
‘trade mark registration’ is in
reference to the
® which, begin appearing to the right of
the Devenish Tower
(roof) and above
the right end of the
[Co. Fermanagh Ireland] banner !!
“Earlier I mentioned looking at the colour when
authenticating a piece. Belleek has a very creamy lustre
which none of
the other potteries were able to duplicate.
The pieces in question had
a yellow cast to them not the
creamy lustre of Belleek. Another was a
well know shape
(from a competing Pottery). So once again know what you
are buying taking a gamble may not always bring rewards.”
Remember, Belleek has always exclaimed “Without which
Genuine”, i.e., in reference to a (proper)
Pottery Mark !!
Spanish singer Julio Iglesias was on television with
British TV host
Anne Diamond when he used the Spanish
word "manana" (manyana). Diamond
asked him to explain
what it meant. He said that the term means, "Maybe
job will be done tomorrow, maybe the next day, maybe
the day after that. Perhaps next week,
next month, next
year who cares?"
The host turned to Irishman Shay Brennan who was also on
the show and
asked him if there was an equivalent term in
Irish. "No. In Ireland we
don't have a word to describe
that degree of urgency."
** TIES AND TYGS !!
Confusion appears to exist as to the difference between
a Loving Cup
and a Tyg ?? Referencing several items of
I’ve discouvered Tygs actually being
labeled as Loving Cups
Answers.com describes a Loving Cup as :
“The noun has 2 meanings :
“Meaning #1 : a large drinking vessel (usually with two
handles) that people drink out of in turn at a banquet
“Meaning #2 : a large metal vessel with two handles that
awarded as a trophy to the winner of a competition”
From our Wikipedia, we discouver an extended definition :
“A Grace Cup (or Loving Cup) is a silver bowl or tankard
two handles that was traditionally passed round the
table after grace
at all banquets in London. According to
Brewer's Phrase and Fable, the
Grace Cup is still seen at
the Lord Mayor's feasts, at college, and
private banquets. Oxford's Oriel College
and Heywood grace cups, dated 1654-55 and
1669-70 in its
Buttery Plate collection. Nearby Balliol College also
makes reference to the use of a Grace Cup which was
discontinued in the
early 20th century.
“'Grace' cups were passed round when a traditional grace
prayer of thanksgiving) was said to give thanks for
the food eaten.
Robert Burton, in his Anatomy of Melancholy
(1621) described their use
as 'a corollary to conclude the
feast and continue their mirth, a grace
cup came in to
cheer their hearts and they drank healths to one another
again and again'. A good example is The Howard 'Grace' Cup.
“The proper way of drinking the cup observed at the
Mayor's banquet or City companies' is to have a
silver bowl with two
handles and a napkin. Two persons
stand up, one to drink and the other
to defend the
drinker. Having taken his draught, he wipes the cup
the napkin, and passes it to his "defender," when
the next person rises
to defend the new drinker. And
so on to the end.”
As to a
Tyg, from Answers.com and (our) Wikipedia, we
definition as :
“A Tyg is a large English pottery mug with three or more
handles dividing the rim into sections for several drinkers.
tall, black-glazed, red-bodied drinking vessels were
produced from the
15th century through the first half of
the 17th century, peaking in
popularity during the 16th
and 17th centuries. Some were made with as
many as nine
“The multiple handles also allow hot drinks to be passed
around without pain.
“Tygs were made in large quantities at Wrotham in Kent and
many Staffordshire factories. Examples have surfaced at
American colonial sites, as well as in the UK.
“There is a whole other life to Tygs. The miniatures, many
the leading names in Staffordshire and Worcester area
three handled Tygs that stand proud at
only 1 to 1 7/10 inches in size.
“There are also examples of Japanese and German Tygs.
“Many people ask what are they for? The most likely answer
for the small ones is for decoration, as many of them are
painted and are widely collected.”
Editor’s Note : HURRAH for Belleek and their production
Armorial Miniature Tygs !!
Although, one can stumble upon definitions of loving cups
more than a pair of handles, I find it quite
amusing if not curious, to
say the least, to contemplate
‘three handled love’
Also, I can’t imagine a couple of Knights, sitting in a
pub, following a deadly jousting competition, actually
sharing a two
handled drink ??!! I could possibly envision
a band of knightly
compatriots sharing a nine handled
vessel of their favourite beverage
following a fierce
OR, their wives playing a fast game of Whist and sharing
a four handled
Tyg of lemonade, while anxiously awaiting
brave’s arrival home from their pillage
and plunder !!
O.K., so enough already with our history lesson !!
MANY years ago, I was fortunate enough to purchase a
Tyg via E-Bay from a splendid little
antique shop down under !! Upon
receipt of my newly
acquired treasure, I communicated with the shops
via a nicely worded E-mail expressing my sincere thanks and
asking her politely to be on the ‘look-out’ for
interesting items of Belleek !!
My LOVELY little
along with a
Specimen Vase !!
Several years, at least, elapsed when, I received a
telephone call one
morning from the shops owner !! She
explained to me that a Belleek Bust
of Charles Dickens
was going on the auction block in several days and
inquiring as to whether I would be interested ?? My
‘tie’ to this antique fancier had paid off !!
INTERESTED ?? TO SAY THE LEAST !! OF COURSE !!
The ONLY problem, as she expressed her concerns, was that
if she were
to purchase Mr. Dickens, he might become a
semi-perminent resident of
her shop for numerous years,
which, she verbalized was an inappropriate
use of her
limited funds !! So, what to do ??
In a fairly brief discussion, we both agreed as to a
‘maximum’ bid she was authorized to place for me !!
Charles were to be hammered down at auction end and
(she) were the successful bidder, ANY difference between
bid and my maximum would be retained by her
as simple profit !! NO
questions asked and I would NOT
quiz her as to the true results of the
Another short conversation, several days later, and I was
informed that I was now the proud owner of an amazing
Belleek Bust of
Charles Dickens !! The ONLY remaining
procedure was to procure proper
accommodations for his
perilous journey across a shark infested sea to
my port !!
A month or so later, Charles was knocking at my doorstep !!
IT HAD ALL WORKED OUT !!
Amazingly, I was eventually provided provenance, from his
owners, that this particular bust was purchased
by a Fútbol
(Soccer) Club partner of Dickens himself !!
This just demonstrates, that by occasionally interfacing
contacts or your TIES you may be surprised with
an unexpected offer !!
You might consider dropping into
their shop as you travel about, query
them as to any fairs
or shows they may be participating in or just drop
call for a brief chat !! They’re VERY important !!
Editor’s Note : Actually, you can collect ties OR tygs !!
They’re BOTH equally important !!
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